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    WTF has happened to this community? It seems like only about 6 years ago, every hint of a White House misstep was analyzed, discussed and pilloried before being promptly assigned the label "Worst Thing to Ever Happen in the History of Ever". What's (hope and) changed?
    Last edited by freeheelwilly; 4 June 2014, 09:30 AM.

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    What has changed? The bash-Bush lefties have been exposed as complete hypocrites.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Laura View Post
      What has changed? The bash-Bush lefties have been exposed as complete hypocrites.
      As opposed to the obvious neutrality of the bash-Obama righties. Wow, you're thick.

      I think it was two birds with one stone. He's been stumped by Guantanamo and could get rid of a few detainees while regaining this deserter. Guys family probably has some clout and has been putting the pressure on. Regardless, I think they're over-confidant after the Bin Laden murder that they can track these Taliban guys.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Matt J View Post
        I think it was two birds with one stone. He's been stumped by Guantanamo and could get rid of a few detainees while regaining this deserter. Guys family probably has some clout and has been putting the pressure on. Regardless, I think they're over-confidant after the Bin Laden murder that they can track these Taliban guys.
        Good God. How far up your stinky ass did you have to stick your clammy hand to pull out that worthless piece of speculative ****?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Laura View Post
          What has changed? The bash-Bush lefties have been exposed as complete hypocrites.
          Always with that word. Never with anything specific.

          If you're miffed that some unspecified people were scattershot with their Dubya criticisms, why of course the right thing to do is be exactly the same sort of empty hat. That's not at all hypocritical.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by freeheelwilly View Post
            WTF has happened to this community? It seems like only about 6 years ago, every hint of a White House misstep was analyzed, discussed and pilloried before being promptly assigned the label "Worst Thing to Ever Happen in the History of Ever". What's (hope and) changed?
            Why is this titled "Bergdahl?" Explain.

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            • #7
              You guys are so lucky not to have any hypocrites on your side of the fence! Must be nice.

              As far as what has changed, it's the political leanings of the administration being more in line with members of forums like this. That shouldn't be so hard to grasp, even for the simpletons among us.

              I don't love everything this administration has done, but I like more of what they have done than the previous one. Stuff like ending wars instead of starting them is a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. Less war will go a long way toward saving money too.

              As for the prisoner exchange, I read that with the wind down of the war in Afghanistan protocol dictates both sides release their prisoners. So if that is the case then these guys were going to be released anyway in the not-too-distant future. There was also concern that the Taliban wouldn't follow that protocol, so the decision was made to make the deal while we had the chance. So it may be a very well played move to use those prisoners to get ours back while we still could. Things are never as simple as soundbites designed to stir outrage try to make them.

              Now if the one we got back is a deserter, then I expect he will stand trial for his actions. It would be un-American to just leave him with the enemy, even if he is suspected of acting un-American himself.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by stevesliva View Post
                Why is this titled "Bergdahl?" Explain.
                No reason......

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MattB View Post
                  As far as what has changed, it's the political leanings of the administration being more in line with members of forums like this. That shouldn't be so hard to grasp, even for the simpletons among us.
                  Actually, on a personal level, I've always found that to be impossible to grasp. I don't think my political beliefs should mean that I apply shifting standards when evaluating the conduct of elected leaders. You apparently feel differently. What a surprise.

                  The release of those four terrorists was certainly not a given either. This isn't a war that's going to end with an armistice, much less a peace, agreement, with all the combatants simply packing up their stuff and going home. You don't know that? Why are people as stupid and unreflective as you even allowed to express their opinions?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by freeheelwilly View Post
                    No reason......
                    To contrast you with these hypocrites, the difference would be that you determine "missteps" without analysis?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stevesliva View Post
                      Always with that word. Never with anything specific.

                      If you're miffed that some unspecified people were scattershot with their Dubya criticisms, why of course the right thing to do is be exactly the same sort of empty hat. That's not at all hypocritical.
                      "Unspecified"? I don't know about Laura but I'm talking to and about all the left-wing grime that posts or lurks here and used to post on TTips when it was still around. There was a thread critical of the administration pretty much every day until the Obama inauguration. Since then - NOTHING. MattB just admitted why that is.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by stevesliva View Post
                        To contrast you with these hypocrites, the difference would be that you determine "missteps" without analysis?
                        "Analyzed" in my first post was perhaps a poor word choice. Jellohead, Booohb, bobski, Chumpman, Truther and, of course, yourself never employed a great deal of deliberative and thoughtful "analyses" on TTips during the 8YTT.TM

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                        • #13
                          My work is done here.

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                          • #14
                            You're ****ing insane.

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                            • #15
                              It's never been very complicated Steve.

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