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  • B&D Ski Leashes

    Has anyone tried these stretchable leashes with safety break-away for extreme situations? They sound great, but seem complicated enough that there could be problems.

  • #2
    Why do you think there could be problems? They're just a metal clasp, some cable, and some breakable plastic. Not particularly complicated--although I suppose more complicated than a non-breakaway leash.

    I have a couple of friends that use them and I haven't heard them complain.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hindfoot View Post
      Has anyone tried these stretchable leashes with safety break-away for extreme situations? They sound great, but seem complicated enough that there could be problems.
      I have them on my AT skis and if I didn't already have some other leashes I would have them on my Tele skis as well. For me the main advantage is that when you have them on, you never take them off, so sketchy transitions on sidehills or windy transitions on ridges, you are always attached to your skis and they will never get away from you. You can take skis off, reskin and put the skis back on while you are leashed.

      I don't use and don't like ski brakes in the BC so I always need some sort of leash. As far as the breakaway, I haven't tested it but looks like it would break if the ski was pulled hard enough off your foot. WTBS, This is one issue, that is that the leash hangs out a bit. I was skiing last year and skied thru some brush and they caught in the brush and yanked me right off my feet. Maybe I should tuck the coils up into my cuff.

      Anyway, I like them.
      "Just say no to groomed snow"

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      • #4
        Been using them for years, love em, really great to not have to worry about your ski taking off while transitioning, The break away has worked in a couple of hard falls for me, I carry some extra zip ties and a couple key rings with me in case I need to reattach.

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        • #5
          Just shattered the clasp on a BD leash this weekend when it got caught between my boot and a rock. This next storm should cover everything up nicely though and still time to make up a new leash.

          "There's a whole lot of reward on the other side of risk."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Quadzilla View Post
            I don't use and don't like ski brakes in the BC
            I am curious why.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by James View Post
              I am curious why.
              Well, IMO at some point you or someone you are touring with will have a wreck in the BC with brakes and a ski will come off hopefully preventing injury. Great but maybe the ski augers in deep snow and gets lost and either you can't find it or you spend a lot of time digging and searching. No big deal at a resort but 4 or 5 miles deep in the BC.

              This has happened to me twice, actually people I have toured with and spend hours searching instead of hours skiing. Won't happen to me as I will have leashes to prevent that or be on nonreleasable tele gear that doesn't come off.
              "Just say no to groomed snow"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Quadzilla View Post
                have leashes to prevent that or be on nonreleasable tele gear that doesn't come off.
                Quad...I'm not sure my HH non-releasable bindings will never come off. In fact, I would like it if they do during a nasty fall I might take, though would not plan on it. Also, I can imagine that some part would break or I might screw up and get the heel throw on wrong somehow. Would hate to have others waiting around while I chase down an escaped ski.

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                • #9
                  whoa, whoa, whoa there.... paying for ski leashes? Aren't we supposed to create our own from the rags leftover from our hemp knickers and old binding parts?

                  FWIW, I had a key ring blow out once at the resort and my diy releasable leash produced a diy missle.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Quad, while that has never happened to me I could see how quickly I would change my mind it it idid.

                    Hindfoot, I have twisted out of HH a few times in hard falls. I am not about to begin to say they area a releasable binding but they have released for me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Quadzilla View Post
                      Well, IMO at some point you or someone you are touring with will have a wreck in the BC with brakes and a ski will come off hopefully preventing injury. Great but maybe the ski augers in deep snow and gets lost and either you can't find it or you spend a lot of time digging and searching. No big deal at a resort but 4 or 5 miles deep in the BC.

                      This has happened to me twice, actually people I have toured with and spend hours searching instead of hours skiing. Won't happen to me as I will have leashes to prevent that or be on nonreleasable tele gear that doesn't come off.
                      See James doesn't understand this because there's never enough snow in Colorado to lose a ski. Except for right now maybe. Of course I'm in the high country for the worst two years on record and as soon as I leave, pow!

                      Quad, just make sure they have some "Powder Cords."

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                      I once stopped for about 5 minutes on a killer day at Brighton to try and help this older guy look for his ski. He never found it. Total bummer and not something I usually think about as a problem in the BC but obviously entirely possible in the right conditions. I do think about what would happen if I was caught in a slide with a non-releasable leash and usually don't use anything at all unless I simply left it on there from banging chairs. I've checked those B&Ds out before and they seem to be a fairly elegant solution.

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                      • #12
                        Yeah, I guess powder cords could save your ass but they seem to be a hassle keeping them stuffed up in your cuff. Today it would have been easy to lose a ski with a AT binding, heavy deep unconsolidated snow under semi supportable crust. One thing for certain, if it happened to me today I wouldn't have been able to hike or do a effective ski search. I like leashes in the BC......
                        "Just say no to groomed snow"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Quadzilla View Post
                          but they seem to be a hassle keeping them stuffed up in your cuff.
                          And that's why you also need two Powder Cord Pouches for another $30, as seen in the picture Matt copied.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by James View Post
                            Thanks Quad, while that has never happened to me I could see how quickly I would change my mind it it idid.

                            Hindfoot, I have twisted out of HH a few times in hard falls. I am not about to begin to say they area a releasable binding but they have released for me.
                            I have heard that fairly often, James, but it has not happened to me, in my limited experience. I remember reading on TTips and hearing elsewhere that this is fairly common. Someone even described how they rounded off their duckbills a bit so that they might slip out of the toepiece more easily in a fall, but presumably not compromise the solidity or the ski-ability of the boot-binding interface. I'd like to know more about this, if anyone has experience with it. Would hate to start whittling on my duckbills only to find that it messes up the solid feel between boot and the binding. That other thread about broken ankles got me thinking about preserving the old ankles and knees.

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                            • #15
                              Let me add to that a question. Wondering whether anyone has any insight into whether, when HHs separate from boots in a fall, is it the heel throw that gives first to free the boot, or does the boot just twist out of the toepiece? It's hard to imagine either one happening, but maybe if the boot sole were to twist radically enough it could come loose at both ends. That sole is pretty stiff though.

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