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    <sigh> Be careful out there...

    http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24...unty-avalanche


  • #2
    But they didn't tell us what kind of weed he had on him when he died....damn journalists are falling down on the job.
    Yay!...(Drool)


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    • #3
      Originally posted by BillyFromTheHills View Post
      But they didn't tell us what kind of weed he had on him when he died....damn journalists are falling down on the job.
      Jeez Billy - not funny.

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      • #4
        Sorry, you must be horribly broken up about this. It was a reference to last article on the last death near Vail Pass, where the press found it necessary to link the newly legalized weed to the guy's death...I've got empathy fatigue for these things nowadays. I'll be sitting shiva, if it helps.
        Yay!...(Drool)


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        • #5
          I think in the context of the Post and an avalanche last year(?) where they reported on the victims possessing a certain strain of marijuana it's relevant.

          Billy beat me to it...

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          • #6
            Sad event. Some friends of mine knew him.
            Here's a tribute video to the victim.

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            • #7
              How much sensitivity to the victims' families is required, anyway? If I thought for a second that anyone that was close to the guy would be hurt by my comments, I would never offer anything but kindness and support. On the internet, people just post these links and then come the patterned responses: "+++vibes+++" or "he died doing what he loved" or "such a tragedy" or "I stood next to him at a urinal one time". It's bull****.

              I remember when McConkey died that I made a comment on TGR that what he was doing sounded like an episode of "Jackass" gone wrong. From the response, you would have thought that all the TGR goobers were family to the guy...even got some threats of violence from that one. We're a bunch of drama-addicted voyeurs and sycophants when it comes down to it.


              Fine, post the death announcements and the links to the stories...not every one is going to follow the pattern. I can't be the only one who thinks that the expectation of "internet mourning" is sick and twisted.
              Last edited by BillyFromTheHills; 8 January 2014, 11:04 AM.
              Yay!...(Drool)


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              • #8
                Originally posted by BillyFromTheHills View Post
                How much sensitivity to the victims' families is required, anyway? If I thought for a second that anyone that was close to the guy would be hurt by my comments, I would never offer anything but kindness and support. On the internet, people just post these links and then come the patterned responses: "+++vibes+++" or "he died doing what he loved" or "such a tragedy" or "I stood next to him at a urinal one time". It's bull****.

                I remember when McConkey died that I made a comment on TGR that what he was doing sounded like an episode of "Jackass" gone wrong. From the response, you would have thought that all the TGR goobers were family to the guy...even got some threats of violence from that one. We're a bunch of drama-addicted voyeurs and sycophants when it comes down to it.


                Fine, post the death announcements and the links to the stories...not every one is going to follow the pattern. I can't be the only one who thinks that the expectation of "internet mourning" is sick and twisted.
                Agreed. These death are sad and tragic to the friends and family but my "vibes" will do nothing for them. I'm not in mourning unless it's someone close to me.

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                • #9


                  From Westword 4/22/13:

                  Mark McCarron ID'd as victim in Vail avalanche, anger over marijuana mention


                  By Michael RobertsMon., Apr. 22 2013 at 6:52 AM
                  102 Comments
                  Categories: Follow That Story, News











                  Big photos below.
                  On Friday, we reported about the tragic death of a snowboarder in an avalanche near Vail Pass; see our original coverage below. The victim has now been identified as Mark McCarron, 38, of Westminster.As part of its original release, the Eagle Police Department noted that McCarron and friends accompanying him had been smoking marijuana, and even noted the strain, Dead-Head OG. We questioned whether this information was relevant or appropriate -- and it turns out a lot of other people did, too.
                  On Thursday, as we reported, a group of three snowboarders are said to have accessed a backcountry area near the pass called North Ptarmigan Hill. Then, at around 1:30 p.m., an enormous avalanche was triggered; it's said to have been ten feet deep and 300 feet wide. The snowboarder with McCarron was able to escape the devastation, but McCarron was swept into a stand of trees and died as a result of his subsequent injuries.

                  A Vail Mountain Rescue Group image from the avalanche site. Look below for more photos and details.
                  The Eagle County Sheriff's Office subsequently provided an overview of this information, but also added this: "Detectives with the Eagle County Sheriff's Office were informed that the parties involved were under the influence of Dead-Head OG (a strain of marijuana) at the time of the incident."In our post, we wondered if this mention was a way of implying that marijuana had somehow been the cause of the accident -- a highly dubious assertion, to put it mildly. Given that Amendment 64 allows adults 21 and over to use and possess small amounts of marijuana, we suggested that this information would only be worthy of note if the victims were underage -- and given that McCarron was in his late thirties, that possibility is off the table.
                  Comments soon piled up on the post, with one person identifying herself as the girlfriend of the snowmobiler who accompanied McCarron to the site. She noted that McCarron's friends and loved ones were "livid" about the reference to marijuana, and the way that some media organizations, including the Denver Post, played it. She added that McCarron and his companions are "backcountry professionals...trained in avalanche safety" who "performed proper protocol and found their friend within three minutes of the slide. They did everything they could to save their best friend.
                  "They were not under the influence either, but they did have MJ on them," she added. "It is deeply insulting to us that these articles are alluding that MJ caused the slide, when indeed, was a freak accident."

                  We're featuring this complete post in an upcoming Comment of the Day. But other comments reinforced the message. Here are some examples:
                  OK wait so smoking pot causes avalanches?Totally irrelevant! I have been skiing backcountry avalanche prone mountains for over 25 years, and smoked weed before every single run, and I am still here...smokin and skiin.
                  90% of the snowboarders over age 18 are smoking pot, wow.
                  I've never known mj to cause natural disasters. Wow, they're desperate to make it look dangerous now.
                  They should have been reporting that his family, which includes an amazing wife and 2 beautiful daughters are crushed by the accident. This family is devastated that they lost their husband/best friend and father!
                  This last note makes an important point: The mention of marijuana has stolen attention from what is clearly an awful situation for everyone in McCarron's orbit. The focus should be on him rather than on a legal substance that appears to have played no role in what happened.Our sincere condolences to McCarron's friends, family and loved ones.
                  Yay!...(Drool)


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