What to do with old fat skiers: add fish oil???

[riser3]

Carrying on a proud tradition.

Actually I am serious, my sabbatical gave me more time to think about life. My health has been seriously neglected. And I am not really "old". However due to neglect I am starting to feel old.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/262223-Eat-fast-and-live-longer

I am trying the 5-2 diet as inspired by Dr. Mosley. I have lost a few pounds. That is only one of the goals. We will have to see what my numbers look like after my next yearly in January.

I am also changing the content of my diet loosely in line with Dr. Aziz and "The Perfect 10 Diet", hence the fish oil.

[climbhoser]

I've heard good things about 5/2, and I do think there's some valid data behind intermittent fasting.

That said, you need to pay respect with how you do it. Don't splurge on crap food on your recovery meal goes without saying.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that there's something to the thinking that gluten is poison. I think refined sugar is also terrible stuff.

Over and over again it comes back to the same things: eat your fruits and veggies with reckless abandon, stay minimal on dairy (if at all) and if you eat meat then eat very lean meats in moderation.

You know you can get a perfect blend of amino acids and omegas from hemp seeds, right? With the toxins in fish and general concern about extremely high fat content in fish oils, I tend to think hemp seeds/hemp oil is a safer bet.

[Greg]

I think the best use for fat old skiers is to make ski chairs out of them. The other ski chair thread complains that ski chairs are not comfortable, but I think they are using the wrong ski(er)s. The old fat ones make a nice La-Z-Boy.

As to real issues of health and fitness, I am in the camp of "eat well and exercise, and it doesn't matter too much how you do it."

[riser3]

Ya, I have been using up my supply of fish oil and am not sure if I will replenish it. I just really needed it for the parody thread title. I have been grinding my own flax seeds on demand and adding that to all kinds of food of course being careful not to heat it. Didn't even really think about hemp seeds. You dirty filthy freakin hippie! Good food on the "feed" days is a must. The PBS special showed Dr. Mosley eating some questionable food which I think was a bad move. The idea is to eat a decent diet all the time, don't eat crap but don't worry about measuring and weighing on the days you eat. Put the pain and hassle all in two separate days. And then there's the research about the benefits of fasting beyond weight loss. As far as fats go, that's where I am taking a few pages from Dr. Aziz. People are way too afraid of fats. they just need to be "good" fats. Not Franken-fats. And in moderation.

[riser3]

I think the best use for fat old skiers is to make ski chairs out of them. The other ski chair thread complains that ski chairs are not comfortable, but I think they are using the wrong ski(er)s. The old fat ones make a nice La-Z-Boy.

As to real issues of health and fitness, I am in the camp of "eat well and exercise, and it doesn't matter too much how you do it."

Different people are different. :0 Some need outside guidance. Old habits can be hard to break.

[Vtfreeski]

What to do ? Ban them for starting parody threads ? Please..
Wait, does skiing 3x per/season qualify one as a "skier" ?
And again, for those lacking in sardonic apprehension I say
I hear the fish oil makes great liquid glider!

Hmmm, Ignore feature fail!!!!

[Nurse Ben]

What to do ?

Rus knows more about Rus than some crackpot from Spokane, let him struggle with his own demons, no need to be ugly, you need to focus on your own "house" which is really quite a sight!

[Greg]

Different people are different. :0 Some need outside guidance. Old habits can be hard to break.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I actually have stopped eating meat for the past year or so. While I do not think some meat consumption is bad for you, in this as in many things abstinence is sometimes easier than moderation. And it has forced me to find new recipes, and eat a lot more vegetables. I probably still eat too much grain, including the "beer" and "whiskey" forms of grain. I do OK on the exercise front, but I have started to focus more on deliberate high intensity workouts, rather than the "natural" workouts I get just by skiing, running, biking and other recreations (which, for me, tend to be long and slow affairs).

[Nurse Ben]

Hey, just a health professional chiming in ... try to avoid getting too wound up over carbs, fats and proteins. There is a huge amount of misinformation spread about, hereay, etc...

The facts:
Proteins have 4Kcal per gram
Carbohydrates have 4Kcal per gram
Fats have 9Kcal per gram

Fats are generally thought to "cause" obesity because they are calorie dense and make up a significant percentage of the calories in processed foods, snack foods, "unhealthy" foods

An educated person should examine all "diets" and novel ideas for weight loss with a critical eye. There is no such thing as a new diet, many of these diet ideas are reborn, but whether they are new or old ideas, the reality of eating a balanced diet and avoiding unhealthy foods is a constant.

Rules of Thumb:
If you eat too many calories, you will gain weight.
If you eat to few calories, you will lose weight.
Exercise can increase your metabolism, but it can also increase your appetite.
There is no magic to maintaining a healthy diet, the magic is in making yourself do the right thing.
A balanced diet, with all the essential amino acids, complete vitamin and mineral balance, no excesses, this is the best diet for everyone, even your dog.

Oh, and don't forget to exercise

[riser3]

Hey, just a health professional chiming in ... try to avoid getting too wound up over carbs, fats and proteins. There is a huge amount of misinformation spread about, hereay, etc...

The facts:
Proteins have 4Kcal per gram
Carbohydrates have 4Kcal per gram
Fats have 9Kcal per gram

Fats are generally thought to "cause" obesity because they are calorie dense and make up a significant percentage of the calories in processed foods, snack foods, "unhealthy" foods

An educated person should examine all "diets" and novel ideas for weight loss with a critical eye. There is no such thing as a new diet, many of these diet ideas are reborn, but whether they are new or old ideas, the reality of eating a balanced diet and avoiding unhealthy foods is a constant.

Rules of Thumb:
If you eat too many calories, you will gain weight.
If you eat to few calories, you will lose weight.
Exercise can increase your metabolism, but it can also increase your appetite.
There is no magic to maintaining a healthy diet, the magic is in making yourself do the right thing.
A balanced diet, with all the essential amino acids, complete vitamin and mineral balance, no excesses, this is the best diet for everyone, even your dog.

Oh, and don't forget to exercise

^This. 78

[maples]

maybe move farther from the poutine.

12 minutes... is that driving or walking?

[BillyFromTheHills]

I'm thinking he lives in St. Albans, VT....just a guess.

[climbhoser]

Ben, our metabolism does process the different materials differently, though. And that's important.

[Vtfreeski]

Yea, metabolism helps explain why folks in the
far north could eat such "bad" food and actually
be in very good shape..The cold man, the cold..
Eat what ya want just stay cold!
Going out for some fun in -20 -- -30 windchills
today for some skiing..If I drop 10lbs, I'll letcha know..
Ahh, Bacon , eggs, toast and coffee! Beers at half-time..
Ski with one less layer!

[Nurse Ben]

Ben, our metabolism does process the different materials differently, though. And that's important

Look, there is a ****e ton of literature out there pointing to how each person is different, BUT, the reality is that we are mostly all the same, few people will benefit significantly from a novel diet unless they have a proven allergy to a foot stuff.

Keep in mind that evolution is a slow acting thing, we are not significantly different from our ancestors going back thousands of years, so ask yourself why a diet "popular" when we were genetically different will be better for us now.

Bottom line: if you eat too much you will get fatter, if you eat to little you will get skinnier, there is no magic to dieting.

Many people will focus on the minutiae of dieting, yet fail to recognize the above ^^ realities.

There is no magical pill, there is no magical supplement, there is no magical training.