Voile TTS Transit

[Pherick]

Nope. U B hoving at the large end of small. Get the short rods for sure. Especially if you get the long throw cartridges, although the standard size should work for BSL < 300.

Thank you! It's likely I'll impulse buy these as soon as I see them, good to not be dumb.

...I hope they make enough of them in the first run.

[Pherick]

An item for the "i wish there were standards" horse corpse: Wouldn't it be great to mount these to your existing 22D insert patterns? Seems like a good hedge against future market stumbles. Too communist, I suppose.

[jasonq]

An item for the "i wish there were standards" horse corpse: Wouldn't it be great to mount these to your existing 22D insert patterns? Seems like a good hedge against future market stumbles. Too communist, I suppose.

there already is an official standard. Nordic Norm Tele Long, aka the classic 3 hole pattern is either a DIN or ISO standard, i forget which. but that is probably not the one you would want.

a standard would be nice, but it would really limit binding design. there is no standard for alpine or AT bindings mounts either.

[dschane]

Yeah, I imagine the hole pattern is pretty unique and Voile has broken the standard telemark pattern that is has used for years.

And, what are the odds that Voile's next move is in TTN?

[iBjorn]

A little more heavy then I expected. The toe seems to be a Plum 150 which weights 86 grams, so not much to gain from shifting toe piece. For me personally, I would be interested to switch to a Kreuz toe, but I want that to be able to use it with a Kreuz heel as a Telerando set-up (with reliable release).

I would be interested in knowing the weight of the binding plate as well as the heel riser. Changing the heel riser could probably shave some weight.

The drill patterns is genious imho since most ski shops have jigs for 30*27mm

[bobbytooslow]

I have tried to standardize my tinkerings to the most common Dynafit toepiece hole pattern 30mm wide by 39mm long, and then another pair of holes 50mm aft for the rear part of the cable-holding apparatus. It meets my needs, but certainly not everyone's.

[Pherick]

Yeah, I imagine the hole pattern is pretty unique and Voile has broken the standard telemark pattern that is has used for years.

And, what are the odds that Voile's next move is in TTN?

What is the incentive for a norm when the inside pitch is that your binding could become its own norm in toto? ...as long as you don't go down the Rotte/TheM path and screw the shxt out of my skis. Voile two revs deep already, they've sunk nothing into NTN, what other major is going to take a bite at this?

(Though, I think Gravity should consider a heel wired version of his spring box. I browsed some of his work yesterday and think that effort should be getting more attention here. Solid Utah engineering.)

[jasonq]

there already is an official standard. Nordic Norm Tele Long, aka the classic 3 hole pattern is either a DIN or ISO standard, i forget which. but that is probably not the one you would want.

a standard would be nice, but it would really limit binding design. there is no standard for alpine or AT bindings mounts either.

there they are:
ISO 6959:1983
Cross-country ski boots with three pin holes — Dimensions, interface and design

and
ISO 6960:1983
Cross-country ski bindings with three pins — Dimensions, interface and design

[djhutch]

I've never had the desire to add a tech heel to a telemark binding, but if I did this would be the binding to add it to. F1/F3s are the best boots to use for TTS, the pivot block serves as a permanently attached puck to eliminate bellow sag, and the Voile heel lifter assembly looks relatively heavy and I fear the wires will fall down sooner or later (like every heel lifter other than the 22D ones).

[jtb]

The Transit on Dostie's view, as well as a stealth preview of the new graphics on the Objective:

[xmatt]

Are the hooks really the same as Moonlight hooks? Could I take Transit's heel assembly and use it in Moonlight and vice-versa? Would be cool. (I guess probably even if they aren't the same, I could swap my Moonlight hooks into the Transit back end by unscrewing the hooks from the cartridges, etc..., but would be cool if they were the same)

And how much does that Voile heel weigh? It does look kind of bigger than it needs to be!

[Boothoarder]

The Transit on Dostie's view, as well as a stealth preview of the new graphics on the Objective:

Damn, I really like the look of that setup. Maybe voile modified the objective to jive well with a tele binding if Dostie is doing it.... I mean 8 holes should be a lot of retention.

I have a pair of boots that has been waiting for this binding!

[dschane]

Wait, fall 2024? Did you mean fall 2023, as in 9 months from now? It seems ready to go.

[iBjorn]

The heel looks similar to the previous TTS/Traverse Dual Heel Pad

does anyone have an unmounted pair to weight?

[Dostie]

Wait, fall 2024? Did you mean fall 2023, as in 9 months from now? It seems ready to go.

Did I say 24? Whoops. Hahaha. Yup, meant next Fall '23, 6-9 months from now.