new scarpa boot guess

[jtb]

How about riveting a carbon back half to a pebax front half? Probably not worth the cost/weight trade off, but I think it would be cool.

[bobbytooslow]

how might the sole flex?

It'd flex probably about how an actual Maestrale flexes.

It goes back to something discussed in previous threads: Adding bellows does not make a boot flex. Engineering the sole to flex makes a boot flex, and the bellows are there mainly to permit the rest of the scafo to change shape without getting all distorted and wrinkly. Yeah the bellows' durometer/thickness/stiffness can be tuned to resist/dampen/smooth out the flexion that the sole permits, but it all really starts with the sole. Who knows, maybe Scarpa has some magic geometry/molding tricks up their sleeve.

[jasonq]

poorly since the grilamid section would extend to at least the duckbut, but likely not under the bellows (it would need to end shorter than in the picture). But either way what i have shown wouldn't have as much sole flex due to not using pebax for the rear of the scaffo. Keep in mind, i do not know if you can do a co-injection of grilamidand pebax. but given pebax is an alloy of polyether and polyamide and grilamid is a polyamide, it seems likely they could be co-injected.

flip side, if you did the entire scaffo in pebax, it would just limit the weight savings.

[Dostie]

maybe jan 22 scarpa announces something new?

if so, what's your guess?

here is my guess:

IFF this were an accurate picture of the next gen, how might the sole flex?

[xmatt]

I doubt they'd discontinue the TX Comp that the racers use for a long time. People will buy it, the molds are already paid for.

[bauerb]

yeah, I was talking about FIS.

[telemarkmark]

FIS rules would dictate an unmodified boot.

[dschane]

I think he's referring to the races hosted by the International Ski Federation (FIS), and I would think that's a smaller niche sport, but standing from my perch up here, my perception can be warped by what little I see firsthand.

[Quadzilla]

so which sport is more niche: slalom racing on tele, or skinning/touring on tele? seems like the bulk of the market is touring, but I guess its hard to tell a pro racer that Scarpa no longer makes a boot for them, and they need to build their own...

Not sure what kind of answers you are fishing for but first, there is no "Pro Racers" in the tele world especially in the touring or Skimo racing part, but you will learn that soon enough when you show up and "compete". This is strictly recreational and low level at best so "run what you brung". Lastly, you don't need to cobble together some sort of specialized boot/binding setup unless others who are racing do so cuz if you do it isn't racing anymore but cheating as you gain a unfair advantage. If I was looking to cheat, I would put together a full on performance NNN BC setup, practice a lot and horizon everybody............

[bauerb]

so which sport is more niche: slalom racing on tele, or skinning/touring on tele? seems like the bulk of the market is touring, but I guess its hard to tell a pro racer that Scarpa no longer makes a boot for them, and they need to build their own...

[bobbytooslow]

Oh boy, they're back to snail snot green. Explaining which F1's to use for tele is gonna get trickier.

[jasonq]

my guess is they are testing in Solden Austria, they should be running lifts now.

and my guess is 2 boots. one that is analogous to the the maestrale, and will be the boot for most people. And one that is somewhere between an RS and XT, inclusive. I doubt we see two unique designs, one platform with two boots built off it.

but i think it all depends if the TX Comp stays in the lineup. I guess it does not. if it does, then we might only see on boot new boot.

[mo pow]

I spoke with a Scarpa sales rep on Saturday who said a new Scarpa tele boot is "being tested on snow by a few select skiers right now". I guess this means southern hemisphere.

[dschane]

A three-boot line up (F1, Maestrale, Freedom) would be genius, but if they have to go with two, I'd scrap the Freedom (Tx Comp). The slalom racers could start Frankensteining their own boots.

[telemarkmark]

Xmatt, yup, should be very easy. A TXP with three buckles and no cuff lock is 1640g. If you undo all but the first buckle, it feels like a good ROM …until you try an F1.