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    maybe jan 22 scarpa announces something new?

    if so, what's your guess?

    here is my guess
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  • #2
    What's the significance of Jan 22? ISPO?


    My guess:

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    (Just kidding, it will surely have at least 3 buckles, zero carbon, and weigh at least 1500g.)

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    • #3
      Want the second but expect the first. I doubt it will get me to replace a boot quiver of F3's and TXP's, but we'll see. For those without an existing NTN/TTN/TTS boot quiver, something that has the tourability of the F3 and the downhill performance of the TXP should cover the market pretty well. Basically a modern TX I guess.

      I would like a lower cuff, get rid of the power strap, or maybe combine it with the top buckle like the Dynafit PDG. But that probably won't happen. So looking at the Maestrale for cuff options is a smart guess.

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      • #4
        I actually hope it's something exactly like what Jason sketched up. I'd buy it.

        Enough beef to handle ~30 lift serve days a year, good enough ROM for touring days when I actually want some performance on the descents, and a flex pattern suited for tech toes. Kinda like the role the T2X tried to fill. When I'm skinning for vert, I'll be on F1's + TTS anyway, but something like the drawing would pare my boot quiver down to 2 (not counting wacky test mules and redundant pairs waiting in mothballs).

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        • #5
          I guess he is saying January 22 because that is the day before the start of the big ISPO tradeshow in Munich.

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          • #6
            Who says it's just one thing new; maybe we get the Maestrale with bellows (I like it) and an F1 with bellows, or an Alien? F'ck it, bellow them all!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bobbytooslow View Post
              (Just kidding, it will surely have at least 3 buckles, zero carbon, and weigh at least 1500g.)
              I agree. But if indeed that's what it is, i will be suitably underwhelmed as many of us have achieved that already by cannibalizing parts in our garages.

              What ever happened to "whole new paradigm"?

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              • #8
                I'm in the camp of hoping for a reprise of the rear tech inserts on the new NTN Scarpa boots - quoth Pierre:

                Originally posted by Pierre THE M View Post

                It is important to know that more than one person out of four combine MEIDJO + alpine heel. This ranges from the occasional telemarker to the best mountain guide, via ski instructors.
                I've only skied the Crispi EVO WC on Meidjo w/alpine heel. Hate to complain, it isn't an awful boot, but it makes me yearn for something Scarpa, especially in the telemark flex department.

                I almost hate to admit it, but I believe that while NTN keeps you pretty locked in for alpine turns, there are times when being all the way locked in has it's place. Certainly nice to have the option! But I suppose that means your copping out a wee bit there....

                Addition: firmly in the bigger boot cohort here, but truly hope there are a range of options - three NTN tech-compatible boots would be a dream. Probably will be lucky to get one
                Last edited by JackO; 8 October 2021, 11:31 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JackO View Post
                  I almost hate to admit it, but I believe that while NTN keeps you pretty locked in for alpine turns, there are times when being all the way locked in has it's place. Certainly nice to have the option! But I suppose that means your copping out a wee bit there....
                  Meh, whatever gets you down safely is worth its weight in platinum.

                  I agree with Cesare, but I would also say (and as I've complained in the past) that I am yet to find a bellowed-alpine boot that skis as well as any telemark/NTN boot. There's some about the flex, sole, etc. that isn't as progressively smooth through a deep and aggressive tele turn. So, if Scarpa makes one that is like an F1 or Alien, I'll buy that. And out of fear that they'll Tx it again, maybe I get two!

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                  • #10
                    The tech heel stuff raises an interesting question: Do we need a proprietary tech heel interface for telemark boots?

                    Sounds ridiculous, but hear me out. Scarpa won't put standard AT tech fittings in their tele boot heels anymore because people will use them in standard AT bindings with no "puck" under the forefoot, thereby causing BSL shortening, premature release, and dangerous crashes. I don't foresee that problem going away, and I don't see Scarpa pulling a 180.

                    But the manufacturers could agree to change the interface slightly -- maybe just a wider heel pin spacing or something -- so that it functioned the same way, but only worked in bindings purpose-built for it. Consider it an addendum to the NTN/TTN standard. Bindings sold with the new tech heel interface -- NTN, TTN, TTS even -- would then be assured to have componentry in place to prevent the bellows from flexing.

                    I know, it sounds like a lot of work. But is there a better path forward (besides groveling on the internet)?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bobbytooslow View Post
                      I know, it sounds like a lot of work. But is there a better path forward (besides groveling on the internet)?
                      I don't which will happen sooner, your suggestion or lobbying every ski state to modify their current legislation that grants immunity to ski areas for ski injuries to include ski boot manufacturers who support the tech tele world with tech heel inserts. I'll get the petition started . . . .

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                      • #12
                        Bobby - your idea would be an ideal world to be in

                        You think there's no way forward for Scarpa putting tech fittings front and back again on NTN boots again?

                        dschane - agreed, you gotta just get down sometimes. I think you and I might agree that it's just a little better when it's done using telemark turns.
                        Last edited by JackO; 8 October 2021, 01:32 PM.

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                        • #13
                          On another note: if Scarpa doesn't go for the tech fittings front and back that's a huge loss. I think the hybrid/frankentele world is a huge opportunity for telemark to grow and develop, add new members, keep gear progression moving. Scarpa can carry that torch much better than Crispi could/is

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                          • #14
                            crazy idea...
                            scarpa clearly can put rear tech fittings in. And scarpa clearly can do it with an insert in the mold to allow either with or without to be made in a production run.

                            What if scarpa sold Mgear a special boot with tech fittings with Mgear branding, and wrote the contract with Mgear that they assume all product liability. or any other company that wanted to brand a hybrid boot.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jasonq View Post
                              crazy idea...
                              Yup. I take that as a compliment.

                              Originally posted by jasonq View Post
                              scarpa clearly can put rear tech fittings in. And scarpa clearly can do it with an insert in the mold to allow either with or without to be made in a production run.
                              Yup. Which means they likely could also create and place an insert into the mold which accommodates a different heel-pin spacing.

                              Originally posted by jasonq View Post
                              What if scarpa sold Mgear a special boot with tech fittings with Mgear branding, and wrote the contract with Mgear that they assume all product liability. or any other company that wanted to brand a hybrid boot.
                              Yup, this is another good possible way forward.

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